Author/Owner: Legbiter
Date Posted: 1 Jan 99
Title: Betrayer Deck
DejaNews Thread
A while back i posted the germ of an idea for using Betrayer in a deck. For
playtesting, I built three versions of this deck and used them in jol79, 84
and local 8. I am now out in all these games and got a total of 2VPs, but
actually the deck did a lot better than that implies - it became "the deck to
kill" in 84 and 8, and would have got another VP in 79 if Mike, Bleu and all
the others hadn't ganged up on me.
Here is the version of the deck i used in 84, where it flowed BEAUTIFULLY and
would have cleaned up, i think, but for some seriously WEIRD politics [Madness
Network and Reversal of Fortune ... nice combo, but boring to be on the
receiving end of].
CRYPT [500 vampires - 1 of each plus enough weeny 1-caps so that they amount
to 1/3 of the total] Javier Montoya 9 Lazarus 9 Cassandra, Magus Prime
10 Cardano 9 Gwendolyn 11 Kalinda 6 Parnassus 7 Klaus van der Veken
9 Al-Ashrad, Amr of Alamut 9 Aaron Duggan, Cameron’s Toady 2 Cameron 3
Ignacio, The Black Priest 4 Ramiro 4 Guido Lucciano 5 Aurora Van
Brande, Paladin 6 Lisette Vizquel 6 Gratiano 8 Alvaro, The Scion of
Angelica 9 Antonio Delgado 9 Angelica, The Canonicus 10 Horatio 2
Wendy Wade 3 Lolita Houston 4 Devin Bisley 5 Corine Marcon 6 Violet
Tremain 6 Dragos 7 Meshenka 8 Stravinksy 9 Lambach 10 Anton 8
Didi Meyers 5 Thelonius 4 Jing Wei 3 Vanessa 6 Ingrid Russo 4
Gloria Giovanni 4 Christine Boscacci 2 Ohanna 2 Mustafa Rahman 2
Samson 2 Kurt Strauss 5 Grendel - The Worm Eaten 5 Mitchell, The
Headhunter 2 Jimmy Dunn 4 Lena Rowe 3 Rex, The Necronomist 3 Gillian
Krader 2 Anvil 6 Jacko 8 Sela 6 Richter, The Templar of Du Mont 7
Fredrick the Weak 2 Volker, The Puppet Prince 5 Hugo 4 Rake 6 Hector
Sosa 4 Don Cruez - The Idealist 10 Lupo 2 Josef 4 Quira, The Bitch
Queen 6 Anson 8 Dan Murdock 3 Magdelena Schaefer 2 Black Cat 5
Nepata 4 Saqqaf, Keeper of the Grand Temple of Set 9 Boy Toy 2 Amisa 8
Lalitha 2 Artemis 6 Vasantasena 9 Yorik 3 Korah 7 Kephamos, High
Priest of Marrakech 8 Dedefra 5 Mario Giovanni 3 Cristofero Giovanni 3
Carlotta Giovanni 7 Regina Giovanni, The Right Hand of Augustus 10 Ian
Forestal 8 Melek 7 Delilah Easton 2 Masika 10 Harika Guljan 3 Abd
al-Rashid 5 Lolita 3 Jost Werner 6 Marianna Gilbert 4 Ian Wallingford
6 Sadie 2 Caitlin 5 Pieter 6 Blaise 7 Genevieve 10 Giuliano
Vincenzi 2 Leon 3 Sasha Miklos 2 Luther 6 Vliam Andor 2 Monique 5
Natalia 7 Sarisha Veliku 6 Gitane St. Claire 7 Katarina 9 Joaquina
Amaya 6 Lazar Dobrescu 3 Tsigane 3 Salbatore Bokkengro 4 Andre Puxon
5 Petru Sipos 7 Tereza Rostas 8 Darius Styx 9 Kostantin, Baro of the
Caravan 9 Kanya Akhtar 2 Tansu Bekir 4 Husamettin 8 Thetmes, Calif of
Alamut 10 Angel 2 Vasilis, The Traitor of Don Cruez 2 Dre, Leader of
the Cold Dawn 3 Raziya Samater 3 Uma Hatch 3 Yuri - The Talon 4
Brachah 5 Bianca 6 Akram 8 Constanza Vinti 8 Donal O’Conner 8
Miranda Sanova 8 Tura Vaughn 8 Crusher 9 Appolonius 10 Jacob Bragg 3
Sarah Brando 3 Dodd 5 Rigby, Crusade Vanguard 5 Salinger 9 Bronwen
10 Khalil Anvari 3 Hadrian Garrick 4 Aisha 6 Kemintiri 10 Anastasia
Grey 3 Chandler Hungerford 3 Panagos Levidis 3 Ricki Van Demsy 3
Roman Alexander 4 Bear Paw 5 Camille Devereux 5 Raven 5 Mirembe
Kabbada 5 Badger 6 Zack North 6 Gunther - Beast Lord 7 Iliana 7
Faruq 8 Quinton McDonnell 8 Angus - The Unruled 10 Basilia 10 Wynn 10
Stanislava 11 Shane Grimald 4 Zachary 7 Samantha 10 Brazil 2
Normal 2 Dollface 3 Watenda 3 Zoe 3 Aleph 4 Roland Bishop 4
Victoria 5 Zebulon 5 Dancin’ Dana 6 Damaskenos, Herald of Leandro 6
Ozmo 6 Gilbert Duane 7 Gregor Anderssen 7 Mariel - Lady Thunder 7
Cornelius Ottavio 8 Dr. Jest 8 Sylvester Simms 8 Roxanne, Rectrix of
the 13th Floor 9 Lucian 10 Leandro 11 Claven 4 Muriel Foucade 5
Virgil 8 Imogen 9 Hannibal 10 Dimple 2 Koko 2 Duck 3 Regillio,
The Seeker of Akhenaten 3 Agrippina 4 Daliyah 4 Laurent de Valois 4
Sammy 4 Tiberius, The Scandelmonger 5 Judah 6 Tusk - Talebearer 6
Chester DuBois 7 Nikolaus Vermeulen 7 Sebastian Marley 7 Amadeo 8
Ebanezer Roush 8 Murat 7 Selma - The Repugnant 8 Marty Lechtansi 9
Sheldon - Lord of the Clog 9 Lucretia - Cess Queen 10 Harrod 11 Dani 2
Tommy 3 Agatha 4 Nigel the shunned 5 Olivia 5 Beast, The Leatherface
of Detroit 7 Kendrick 7 Calebos 8 Cailean 10 Yong-Sun, Harmonist 10
Dieter Kleist 2 Colin Flynn 3 Isabel de Leon 3 Demetrius Slater 4
Dorian Strack 4 Felicia Mostrom 5 Ramiel Dupre 5 Adrianne 6 Kallista
- Master Sculpter 6 Radeyah 6 Sigrid Bekker 6 Elliot Sinclair 7
Tatiana Romanov 7 Makarios, The Seducer 8 Marcellus 8 Andreas - Bard of
Crete 9 Anneke 10 Francois Villon 10 Alexandra 11 Carter 2
Remilliard, Devout Crusader 4 Victor Revell, Loyalist 5 Sheila Mezarin 6
Jessica 7 Lachlan, Noddist 8 Donatien 9 Matteus, Flesh Sculptor 10
Roreca Quaid 2 Blythe Candeleria 3 Dr. John Casey 3 Ignatius 4 Sarah
Cobbler 4 Merrill Molitor 5 Sabine Lafitte 5 Elisabetta Romano 6
Lydia Van Cuelen 6 Thomas Thorne 6 Astrid Thomas 7 Muaziz, Archon of
Ulugh Beg 7 Justine, Elder of Dallas 8 Rebekka, Chantry Elder of Munich
8 Spiridonas 9 Etrius 11 Heinrick Schlempt 2 Brooke 3 Richard
Tauber, Ayelea’s Puppet 4 Reverend Blackwood 6 Bryan Van Duesen 7 Kij
Dansky 8 Ethan Locke 9 Ayelea, The Manipulator 10 Rufina Soledad 2
Gideon Fontaine 3 Itzahk Levine 3 Roland Loussarian 3 Courtland
Leighton 4 Violette Prentiss 4 Jazz Wentworth 5 Melissa Barton 5
Ranjan Rishi, Camarilla Scholar 5 Heather Florent, The Opportunist 6
Luccia Paciola 6 Nakova, Advocate of Golconda 6 Sir Walter Nash 7
Timothy Crowley 7 Emerson Bridges 8 Bindusara, Historian of the Kindred
9 Helena Casimir 9 Natasha Volfchek 9 Suhailah 9 Wilhelm Waldburg 9
Democritus 10 Queen Anne 10 Arika 11 Billy 5 Gerard 5 Dylan 6
Marlene, The Infernalist 6 Dominique 7 Quentin 9 Lazverinus, Thrall of
Lambach 10 Rudolpho Giovanni 3 Vittorio Giovanni 5 Patrizia Giovanni 5
Gaspare Giovanni 6 Rafaele Giovanni 6 Stefano Giovanni 6 Enzo
Giovanni, Pentex Board of Directors 8 Francesca Giovanni 4 Vaclav
Petalengro 6 Juan Cali 3 Ulugh Beg, The Watcher 10
plus 22 each of:
Nik 1
Antoinette DuChamp 1
Royce 1
Angela Decker 1
Basil 1
March Halcyon 1
Huang, Blood Cultist 1
Navar McClaren 1
Smudge - The Ignored 1
Franciscus 1
Hasina Kesi 1
Igo - The Hungry 1
Julius 1
Uriah Winter 1
LIBRARY [99 Cards]
25 Betrayer
14 The Parthenon
16 Recruitment
9 Rumours of Gehenna
4 Protected Resources
8 Bribes
4 The Barrens
5 Kine Resources Contested
2 Kindred Segregation
2 Dramatic Upheaval
2 Dreams of the Sphinx
2 Slave Auction
2 Disputed Territory
2 Domain Challenge
2 Fragment of the Book of Nod
Obviously the idea is to Recruit out one of your prey's vamps and pile on the
Betrayers. Pool gain is through bribed votes, especially Rumours of Gehenna
so that you get the other master phase action. Defence against bleed and vote
is not spending much on influence. As the game proceeds your deck turns into
a bit of a weenie swarm, because you tend to have recruited the little guys
your successive preys brought out.
I've also built a real-space version of this deck which is changed to reflect
the partial success of the playtesting. Don't have it with me right now, but
the following things are different:
90 library cards. Yes Euro-Meths, you COULD be facing this in the VERY NEXT
tournament y'all attend. Or the one after that. Or sometime. Just as soon as
i've figured out a way of shuffling a 500-card crypt.
No Camille. I just couldn't face putting 500 half-opaque protectors on the
crypt for the sake of one vampire. And if i did, my crypt would fall over
every time someone breathed.
No unnecessary masters [Dreams, Barrens, Slave auction, Fragment, Protected
Resources].
The multiple weenie-1's are out. In go all the <5 dom/DOM VTES-backed
vampires i could spare, plus a judicious dose of the following cards: GtU,
Computer hacking, Deflection, Delaying Tactics. The idea is to Scotch nasty
votes and quick-bleed decks which otherwise are bad for the Betrayer, plus
get in a few quick bleeds or the odd fluky pool gain. Combat decks are np;
frankly, they are COMPLETELY useless against the Betrayer concept.
This deck is not THAT much fun to play .... it IS efficient, though. Also it
is absolutely hysterical to watch the reactions of other people at the table
[a] when they see your crypt, and [b] once they figure out what is going on.
I've seen grown Methuselahs BEGGING each other to torporise/diablarise/Banish
their own Betraying vampires!
Salem Christ Prince of Canberra came up with the same idea completely
independently, i might add. His slant on it is not quite the same as mine,
however. I hope he will post his version ..... it is easier and cheaper to
build than mine, for one thing.