Archive Note: This deck was spawned from a deck design discussion. The crypt and
library were posted separately, but are edited together here for purposes of
simplicity.

Robert Ekvall wrote:

> >The crypt needs thinking about. I tend to play with low cost vampires
> >though there could be merit in putting in some of the high pointers to
> >be sure of the skill mix. Probably going to need some presence skill
> >cards and a changling skin mask or two. The more presence i have the
> >bigger bleeds i can do. I can also put Awe in, and Bewitching Oration.
> >Maybe Clan Impersonation?
>
> You could use one of my favorite vamps: the one and only Prince of
> Paris, Francois Villion. He even has obfuscate to go with that great
> ability.

Not a bad call, though he is massive. On the other hand if i put in some
Tombs then it may stand a chance of coming out. the crypt as it stands is:

1 Delilah Easton (cheap presence)
1 Watunda (cheese cutter, no reason not to play him)
2 Mariana Gilbert (PRE for 4!!)
1 Demitrius Slater
2 Tansu Bekir (cheap and dirty assamite)
1 Ramile Dupres
1 (PRE CEL 5 cap !brujah)
1 Kalinda
1 Melek
1 Hussametin

max. cap 8, but is this too fragile? I am aiming to pack 4/5 psyches to
cope with S:CE. once again though as you point out with the sleaze deck,
the only way to deal with IG is Watunda's cheese cutting ability.
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Aaaaanyway, the reason i came up with the Toreador as a good combo clan is
that they have lots of presence to get the votes through and, more
importantly, are cammarilla and can become princes and justicars. Though
having read Micheal's excellent post further down the thread i can see there
may be room for a Settite or two. Another reason for Toreadors is that they
have Aire of Elation which is a very handy card indeed and fits in well with
the decks synergy (apologies for use of buzzword). They also have Art
Museum, which is very useful too (there is no similar ventrue card). The
fact that both clans share celerity is not really that important, as the
only celerity cards currently in the deck are 6 psyches and 2 blurs.

The crypt is still unchanged, but i may tweak it this evening. The deck so
far;

6 Psyche
2 Blur

8 Lost in Crowds
6 Swallowed by the night

7 Legal Manipulations
2 Awe
2 Bewitching Oration
4 Aire of Elation

7 WWEF (just for you James :-))
3 .44's
3 retainers (JS esq/Hotlips Morgan/Mr. Wendal)
1 Changling skin mask
1 Clan impersonation

5 Praxis seizures
1 Toreador Justicar
2 Disp territory
2 Parity shift
1 Revocation of Tyre
10 Kine Resources contested

2 Dreams
1 Vast wealth
2 Art museum
2 Blood doll
3 Alamut
1 Market Square
1 Rumour Mill
1 Direct intervention
1 Major Boon
2 Presence
1 Obfuscate

I'll let you all work out what they are there for without the pointless
commentry. Needless to say that the environment favours those that play a
little intercept (as no one else seems to bother!).

any comments gratefully, yadda yadda yadda

matt.